10 Tips From Tim Ferriss, Guy Kawasaki and Keith Ferazzi on Lifeline Relationships and Mentoring

June 19, 2009 · 16 comments

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Yesterday I listened in on an “author teleseminar” featuring Tim Ferriss (Four Hour Work Week), Guy Kawasaki (How To Change The World) and Keith Ferazzi (author of Never Eat Alone and Who’s Got Your Back?).  The call lasted about an hour.  The topic was about creating “lifeline” relationships – a small, close circle of advisors with whom you can let your guard down and get honest feedback for moving ahead in your life.

I just wanted to share with you a few tidbits of advice that I found interesting or useful from the phone call.  While these tips may not have anything immediately to do with your finances, they definitely pertain to your overall success in general, and that can definitely include what choices you make regarding how you earn your income and how much income you earn.

But this call was about relationships.  And one thing I realized by the end was that whatever holds true for relationship building in one domain will hold true in most domains – blogging, your workplace, or any other field which you hope to enter and succeed it.  So if I could boil the call down to several tips, this is what they would be.

Advice from Tim Ferriss, Guy Kawasaki and Keith Ferazzi

1. You can’t succeed all by your lonesome. You will not only need a wider network, but you’ll need a much closer circle of advisors, too.

2. Your network is not the same group as your close, trusted inner circle of advisors.  This group is ideally 2-3 people who you can consult with on a weekly basis about all of your ups and your downs.  Whereas you probably don’t want to talk about your failures, etc., to those in your wider network whom you’re trying to impress.

3. It’s not lonely at the top, it’s lonely at the bottom. This tip comes from Guy Kawasaki.  We all hear the adage about it being lonely at the top, because in theory, the 1% who achieve look “lonelier” than the 99% herd they separated from.  But that’s only in the land of numbers.  In reality, each major success got to where they are due to the people who helped get them there.  This includes spouses, key associates, and mentors of all sorts.  So conversely, you’ll stay at the “bottom” if you fail to network and allow others to help you.

4. It takes a certain degree of self-confidence to allow yourself to receive the help of others, yet it’s necessary for growth. This includes constructive criticism.  Keith Ferazzi said he used to be quite defensive, kept his guard up, etc.  This prevented his own moving ahead and getting real feedback from others.

5. To develop relationships with those “higher-up” than you, you need to lose all sense of entitlement.  Don’t call, email or tweet someone you’re not on a close conversational basis with and say “hey, I have a great proposal I think you would be interested in, how about having lunch sometime next week?” – Your mentors, because they are “higher up” than you, are very busy.   Make it easy for them.  Tim Ferriss didn’t harass his mentors but would only send very brief emails with very pointed, specific questions.  And no more than 1 or 2.  He’d also give the mentor a “way out” – an easy, polite way to not respond to the email without feeling guilty or troubled by it.  Show your mentors that you respect their time.

6. Don’t focus only on relationship-building with people who “look like” they’ve got success up their sleeves – build authentic relationships with the best of the people you naturally gravitate towards and work well with. For example, at Stanford or Harvard many students get sucked into trying to befriend the son or daughter of YZ Big Name company, when they should work on maintaining some of the more interesting friendships they currently have.  If these people are interesting enough to you right now, they will probably also be successful later on.  Don’t stick to pursuing those who graduated 20 years ago, either.   Your time is now.  Focus on people doing the interesting things, no matter who they are.

7.  Be a member of many peer groups, not just your default one.  Another tip from Tim: expand your horizons and make genuine friendships with someone in a different field of study, from a different culture or philosophy, someone with different goals in life.  You only need to make one “anchor person” in each group to get access to the rest of that group or social world.

8.  Your lifeline relationships don’t have to be best friends, and they may be someone you haven’t even met yet. The important point is how well they work for you.  Is it based on mutual trust and generosity?  But don’t overdramatize the search for a lifeline friend.  You don’t need the relationship to feel serendipitous, there doesn’t need to be special chemistry beyond how effective the relationship works for you.

9. Test the potential for a lifeline relationship by having coffee just to “catch up.” These are people you need to be able to meet over coffee or lunch with and hash out what’s working and not working for you.  When looking for a potential lifeline, invite them to a casual, informal cup of coffee or dinner and see how they respond to your questions, vulnerabilities and goals.  Do they just turn your questions around and begin talking about themselves again?  Are they open to meeting again next week?  Is there the potential for growth in the relationship going forward?

10. You may have to “try a few” out to see how responsive and helpful they might be over the long-term.    It’s also possible that someone might be a lifeline for a few years then no longer works out due to circumstances. Perhaps they no longer have the time to put in, or they’ve developed interests that take them in a new direction.  Accept this, and develop a new lifeline friendship.

Don’t Just Plan, Take Action

As @marcandangel tweeted, “Good planning will help you establish a point A and B. But taking action is the only way to get from point A to B.”

So along with checking out Keith Ferazzi’s website and possibly ordering his book, you can also check out two great leadership organizations Ferazzi and Ferriss mentioned in the call.

Young Presidents’ Organization (the forums especially) and the
Entrepreneurs’ Organization (also see the forums)

Do you have experience with either of these organizations, or did you also hear the call?  Tell me what you think about the relations between leadership, networking and relationship building.  How has an “inner circle” worked, or not worked, for you?

One thing I think I can vouch for about planning vs. action is that until you take action, everything you’ve learned is just an image in your head.  And until you make it your own by doing something, then you’re always working with images (or thoughts) you’ve got from other people.  It’s not that images/thoughts are insufficient in themselves, but they are when they come from elsewhere rather than your own experience.  But sometimes, before we make or take our own experiences, we need these images to get us started.  They can really help guide one in the right (as well as the wrong!) direction.

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1 J. Money June 19, 2009 at 1:30 pm

Pretty good stuff. 2/3 way done w/ The 4-Hour Work Week and freakin’ loving it…refreshing to hear something new and adventurous ;)

2 MoneyEnergy June 19, 2009 at 4:29 pm

Tell me about it! 4HWW is a bomb for your employee brain… I too just took another look at it – read it last summer, will be reading it again.

3 Misti Burmeister June 19, 2009 at 6:19 pm

Excellent information – thanks so much for sharing, Keith!

Warmly, Misti Burmeister

4 Secure Saving June 22, 2009 at 4:51 am

4HWW is really interesting. It’s got a lot of fluff in it, but I feel like it can be really important to get people out of some bad habits. I think he almost sells the lifestyle as an attempt to get you to think about yourself as an entrepreneur which is really uncomfortable for a lot of people.

5 Greg Rollett June 22, 2009 at 1:58 pm

Sounded like an awesome call to be on. What it looks like to me and what I’ve done with my own business is develop a type of mastermind group of like minded professionals who are there to chat with, throw out business ideas and go over successes, failures and missed opportunities. This group is not my core “client base” but more of what I consider to be an inside group of people all moving on the same path who can grow together. Thanks for the wrap up!

6 MoneyEnergy June 22, 2009 at 10:24 pm

Thanks everyone for your feedback! @Secure, I didn’t find much “fluff” in 4HWW – at least not the first time I read it. I suppose that’s possible if you’re already an entrepreneur and using/ doing much of what he talks about. Perhaps it means you’ve already learned all of that.

@Greg – that sounds like what they were on about, yep! The inner circle definitely wouldn’t be your clients. For me it seems the most important thing would be trust. You’d need to be able to depend on these relationships like a rock, if at all possible. That’s the ideal.

7 Ricardo Salazar October 9, 2010 at 7:17 am

The Tim Ferris path is so inspirational and real that it woke me up! I remember reading about the mastermind group in “Think and Grow Rich” by Napoleon Hill, it is so true to this day and love how that message is brought back into focus.

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