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	<title>Comments on: The US Will Never Again Run A Balanced Budget</title>
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		<title>By: Financial Uproar</title>
		<link>http://www.getmoneyenergy.com/2010/04/death-by-debt-us-next-greece-never-again-run-balanced-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-3618</link>
		<dc:creator>Financial Uproar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 07:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Mr. Furguson is right, I will personally give each of you 1.5 million dollars, as well as foot rubs, fertilizing your lawn with as much cow manure as you want and you can all take turns riding around on my back like I am a horse.

I&#039;ll even lower the deadline from never to 20 years, cause I&#039;m nice like that.

So, yeah. I don&#039;t think that prediction is very likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mr. Furguson is right, I will personally give each of you 1.5 million dollars, as well as foot rubs, fertilizing your lawn with as much cow manure as you want and you can all take turns riding around on my back like I am a horse.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll even lower the deadline from never to 20 years, cause I&#8217;m nice like that.</p>
<p>So, yeah. I don&#8217;t think that prediction is very likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Balance Junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balance Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that inflation will eventually be an issue, but down the road a little further. Before that, I think there&#039;s a good chance we will actually have a bout of deflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that inflation will eventually be an issue, but down the road a little further. Before that, I think there&#8217;s a good chance we will actually have a bout of deflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ME - I&#039;ve read that somewhere too, although the classic definition means an order of magnitude much higher than 10%.  Not that wikis are always the most reliable source, but you might want to read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation
I thought these parts of the wiki were interesting, and fairly accurate: 

&quot;Hyperinflation is generally associated with paper money because this can easily be used to increase the money supply: add more zeros to the plates and print...&quot;
&quot;While in peacetime the deficit is financed by selling bonds, during a war it is typically difficult and expensive to borrow, especially if the war is going poorly for the government in question.&quot;

Does the latter sound familiar???  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ME &#8211; I&#8217;ve read that somewhere too, although the classic definition means an order of magnitude much higher than 10%.  Not that wikis are always the most reliable source, but you might want to read this:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation</a><br />
I thought these parts of the wiki were interesting, and fairly accurate: </p>
<p>&#8220;Hyperinflation is generally associated with paper money because this can easily be used to increase the money supply: add more zeros to the plates and print&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;While in peacetime the deficit is financed by selling bonds, during a war it is typically difficult and expensive to borrow, especially if the war is going poorly for the government in question.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does the latter sound familiar???  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyEnergy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoneyEnergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@InvestorJunkie - well, continuing to make the usual mortgage payments might be a good strategy if, say, you lose your job - but before that happens, and times are &quot;relatively good,&quot; it could still be a good idea to pay more earlier - if your term comes up you can make a lump sum, lower the principal, and then have even lower mortgage payments going forward.  If the option is there to pay out your mortgage (or even halve it), I&#039;d do that to lower your month-to-month costs going forward.

@Philip - good points - that is one area where dramatic improvements economically could be made if the powers that be put their mind to it.  Although it seems like someone will demonstrate zero point energy before the US ever reins in its military spending.

@FinancialCents - that reminds me; hyperinflation sounds really dramatic but I remember reading or hearing that inflation doesn&#039;t even need to get that high for it to occur.  I think the number is seemingly innocuous, like 10% or 9% (someone correct me!).  Because it sets off new spirals - initial inflation increases don&#039;t need to be that high to do major damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@InvestorJunkie &#8211; well, continuing to make the usual mortgage payments might be a good strategy if, say, you lose your job &#8211; but before that happens, and times are &#8220;relatively good,&#8221; it could still be a good idea to pay more earlier &#8211; if your term comes up you can make a lump sum, lower the principal, and then have even lower mortgage payments going forward.  If the option is there to pay out your mortgage (or even halve it), I&#8217;d do that to lower your month-to-month costs going forward.</p>
<p>@Philip &#8211; good points &#8211; that is one area where dramatic improvements economically could be made if the powers that be put their mind to it.  Although it seems like someone will demonstrate zero point energy before the US ever reins in its military spending.</p>
<p>@FinancialCents &#8211; that reminds me; hyperinflation sounds really dramatic but I remember reading or hearing that inflation doesn&#8217;t even need to get that high for it to occur.  I think the number is seemingly innocuous, like 10% or 9% (someone correct me!).  Because it sets off new spirals &#8211; initial inflation increases don&#8217;t need to be that high to do major damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 01:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT article ME. I totally agree with you:  1) pay off all your debts as much as you can, 2) figure out what is essential (personally, materially, spiritually, etc.) in your life and get focused on that; as it will help you limit personal expenses and, 3) if you&#039;re in a good asset position (lots of equity in your home), start putting your money into dividend-paying stocks.  You&#039;ll want (and may need) that income in the future if hyperinflation hits!  It never hurts to be ready for the storm...  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT article ME. I totally agree with you:  1) pay off all your debts as much as you can, 2) figure out what is essential (personally, materially, spiritually, etc.) in your life and get focused on that; as it will help you limit personal expenses and, 3) if you&#8217;re in a good asset position (lots of equity in your home), start putting your money into dividend-paying stocks.  You&#8217;ll want (and may need) that income in the future if hyperinflation hits!  It never hurts to be ready for the storm&#8230;  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Brewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Brewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Maria:

The unfunded liabilities of Social Security were huge back then! In 1981 the forecast was that the trust fund would run dry before the end of 1983. It was bad enough that a special commission—chaired by Alan Greenspan— was created to come up with a solution.

The commission&#039;s solution, enacted in 1983, raised the retirement age for most people to 67 (from 65), raised the tax rate, and indexed the ceiling for inflation.

@MoneyEnergy:

The key to balancing the budget that time was a particular kind of government gridlock. Clinton raised taxes modestly, then a long economic boom took off, spurred by recovery from the recession of the early 1990s, the ongoing effects of free trade, globalization, declining military spending after the fall of communism, etc. (The dotcom bubble came later.)

The boom boosted tax receipts, but the Republicans won Congress, making it impossible to agree on what to do with the money. Clinton blocked tax cuts. The Republicans blocked new spending. The result was a surplus.

There&#039;s no reason to expect another accidental surplus, but we now have a model of how to get to one if we want to: modest tax increases combined with a spending freeze can do the trick, once we get the economy back on track.

It is true that we&#039;re not going to get a fresh boost of free trade and globalization—that string is about played out—but we could certainly benefit from declining military spending again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Maria:</p>
<p>The unfunded liabilities of Social Security were huge back then! In 1981 the forecast was that the trust fund would run dry before the end of 1983. It was bad enough that a special commission—chaired by Alan Greenspan— was created to come up with a solution.</p>
<p>The commission&#8217;s solution, enacted in 1983, raised the retirement age for most people to 67 (from 65), raised the tax rate, and indexed the ceiling for inflation.</p>
<p>@MoneyEnergy:</p>
<p>The key to balancing the budget that time was a particular kind of government gridlock. Clinton raised taxes modestly, then a long economic boom took off, spurred by recovery from the recession of the early 1990s, the ongoing effects of free trade, globalization, declining military spending after the fall of communism, etc. (The dotcom bubble came later.)</p>
<p>The boom boosted tax receipts, but the Republicans won Congress, making it impossible to agree on what to do with the money. Clinton blocked tax cuts. The Republicans blocked new spending. The result was a surplus.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason to expect another accidental surplus, but we now have a model of how to get to one if we want to: modest tax increases combined with a spending freeze can do the trick, once we get the economy back on track.</p>
<p>It is true that we&#8217;re not going to get a fresh boost of free trade and globalization—that string is about played out—but we could certainly benefit from declining military spending again.</p>
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		<title>By: Investor Junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Investor Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you want to pre-pay off any fixed rate loan if you suspect high or hyper inflation?  The loan will be worth less in the future.

Paying down any consumer or variable rate debt most definitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you want to pre-pay off any fixed rate loan if you suspect high or hyper inflation?  The loan will be worth less in the future.</p>
<p>Paying down any consumer or variable rate debt most definitely.</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyEnergy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoneyEnergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Philip - it&#039;s good to have the perspective of someone who was paying attention back then! Interesting, indeed, if they were able to turn it all around (and be worried about paying off debt? That sounds crazy) - but I wonder if it was largely due to the growing tech sector - is there anything comparable this time around?

@Maria - I&#039;d still want to pay down my mortgage as fast as possible, too.  I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any harm in getting out of debt early.  Even if there was hyperinflation, your wages wouldn&#039;t necessarily hyperinflate along with it (or not at first).  Yes, the coming social security demographic problem seems to be the elephant that just stepped into the room - it wasn&#039;t there in the 80&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Philip &#8211; it&#8217;s good to have the perspective of someone who was paying attention back then! Interesting, indeed, if they were able to turn it all around (and be worried about paying off debt? That sounds crazy) &#8211; but I wonder if it was largely due to the growing tech sector &#8211; is there anything comparable this time around?</p>
<p>@Maria &#8211; I&#8217;d still want to pay down my mortgage as fast as possible, too.  I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any harm in getting out of debt early.  Even if there was hyperinflation, your wages wouldn&#8217;t necessarily hyperinflate along with it (or not at first).  Yes, the coming social security demographic problem seems to be the elephant that just stepped into the room &#8211; it wasn&#8217;t there in the 80&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the previous comment. The forecasts couldn&#039;t have looked so bad in the 80&#039;s for the simple reason that much of the fiscal trouble forecast by the CBO will come from unfunded liabilities from the Social Security and Medicare, which were not there then. In the 80&#039;s, the baby boomer generation were in their prime working years, while nowadays they&#039;re entering retirement and expecting to draw Social Security benefits for an increasingly large number of years. 
The US has behaved for many years as a family living beyond their means and passing their debt from credit card to credit card to just get along. 
I agree with the post&#039;s advice to pay down your mortgage if possible. I, for one, wouldn&#039;t discount hyperinflation. I hope I&#039;m wrong, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the previous comment. The forecasts couldn&#8217;t have looked so bad in the 80&#8217;s for the simple reason that much of the fiscal trouble forecast by the CBO will come from unfunded liabilities from the Social Security and Medicare, which were not there then. In the 80&#8217;s, the baby boomer generation were in their prime working years, while nowadays they&#8217;re entering retirement and expecting to draw Social Security benefits for an increasingly large number of years.<br />
The US has behaved for many years as a family living beyond their means and passing their debt from credit card to credit card to just get along.<br />
I agree with the post&#8217;s advice to pay down your mortgage if possible. I, for one, wouldn&#8217;t discount hyperinflation. I hope I&#8217;m wrong, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Brewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Brewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe me, the forecasts looked just as bad in the 1980s as they do now. And yet, by 1998 the budget was in surplus. Just a few years later, Greenspan was warning Congress that we were in danger of paying the debt off so quickly as to be disruptive to the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe me, the forecasts looked just as bad in the 1980s as they do now. And yet, by 1998 the budget was in surplus. Just a few years later, Greenspan was warning Congress that we were in danger of paying the debt off so quickly as to be disruptive to the economy.</p>
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